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good race in the first half, the second half was boring as hell.

im not a fan of these cautions at all it makes the race so boring when everyone gets spread out and its impossible to get a caution

Lol, first there is to many cautions now there isn't enough?

Green flag racing is better then 15 cautions a race. I love the new C's.

Was fun racing with Wetz there for a while. Fun race. Glad to take home the win.

Not gonna turbo rage unless this gets deleted, in which case, expect rage.


Lap 2: Baker spins me. I completely loose the pack
1st Caution: Dan puts me in the wall while racing back to the line. Then Baker jams me in the wall so hard I roflcopter in the air.
When I complain to Dan, he runs into me while I'm sitting in my pit stall

1st Restart: I literally accidentally touch Dan. He full throttles me into the wall.

Later: My internet fails. I end up 5 laps down after resetting my internet.

Late in the race: Emerson, sends me half way around, and into the wall.
About 2 laps after that: Adam completely plows through me as I give him the entire track.

Honestly, I want to absolutely murder about half of the field. And with good reason.

lololol

yea its fun when you lead the whole race lol, I'd rather have a caution fest than a snooze fest i didnt ever see a problem before. we would get long runs in using regular cautions and even in the arca races we get long runs. we would have our rediculous wreck fests every once in a while but its not like it was every race

.. A caution fest IS a snooze fest.

Your basically saying you'd rather roll around at 35 mph for 70% of a race then actually getting to RACE. I don't care if I am leading or not I would rather it be an actual race. But I guess you enjoy wrecks and stuff. Long runs are part of racing, its great that we can actually have them now. We'd be lucky enough to get 10 lap runs two weeks ago and now its an actual race.

we used to have long runs anyways it wasn't a rare occasion.

I derped... got 9th lol hate ORP, but gotta get over that at some point haha

I love the new caution rule, the only downside to it is like where I wrecked Shawn at Richmond and there wasn't a caution for it, so it didn't help me any after wrecking someone lol, other then getting a caution for a self spin to help you, it's a great rule.

No ones ever happy I guess. lol

Sucks that I got put roof first into the pit wall and die but oh well.

I think Jake is the only one upset about it lol. Everyone else I talked with says they also love the new cautions.. They'd rather actually have a race.

eh whatever nobody gets my point

i really dont care which style we use. but it does seem like some people get screwed over when they get spun and it a single car caution so it doesnt get called.

yea that's another thing that sucks about it, people can destroy you and you get screwed and they don't even get penalized for causing the wreck

yea that's another thing that sucks about it, people can destroy you and you get screwed and they don't even get penalized for causing the wreck

Perhaps we could reconsider what does and doesn't warrant a caution?

TheShermanator wrote:

Perhaps we could reconsider what does and doesn't warrant a caution?

How so? give me some ideas. I honestly don't really know what else to do then what we're doing right now. But as far as self spins go, thats why we have these type of cautions. At least if you don't get destroyed while spinning or being spun.

I don't know really, just throwing ideas out. Since I didn't really run last night I can only base my ideas off assumptions. But from what I'm hearing there were incidents that severely damaged peoples cars but it wasn't considered enough to slow the field to a caution.

Say somebody does get spun and it is only a single car accident. However it causes damage to their car, tires, engine, etc. They can request a caution be thrown based on severity of the incident. Of course that would require a level of trust in that they wouldn't just make any of it up to draw the caution. I can see where it would be extremely annoying to get spun out and the other person suffers no consequences.

Like I said though, I've got no examples to actually base any of this off of. Maybe Jake can explain it better since that was one of his points.

TheShermanator wrote:

I don't know really, just throwing ideas out. Since I didn't really run last night I can only base my ideas off assumptions. But from what I'm hearing there were incidents that severely damaged peoples cars but it wasn't considered enough to slow the field to a caution.

Say somebody does get spun and it is only a single car accident. However it causes damage to their car, tires, engine, etc. They can request a caution be thrown based on severity of the incident. Of course that would require a level of trust in that they wouldn't just make any of it up to draw the caution. I can see where it would be extremely annoying to get spun out and the other person suffers no consequences.

Like I said though, I've got no examples to actually base any of this off of. Maybe Jake can explain it better since that was one of his points.

Well said, I think in certain instances a one car incident where someones car gets destroyed pretty badly could warrent a caution, and it kinda sucks too to wreck someone and get no consequence for it because you look like even more of a bad guy lol.

I love the rule though.

Since I died on lap 7 last night so I watched most of the race. There wasn't really any time someone got destroyed from self spinning except when someone tagged Brian when he spun, but didn't really do much of anything. There was just a lot of self spins. and contact, but most of the time it ended up in everyone going again, or just one dude spinning out. But yeah, if someone does spin out and destroy their car then we'll see what happens, but I know someone will abuse the rule. And its going to leave a gray area for penalty's. So its gonna be a lot of judgement calls lol.

Judgement calls are a bitch lmao

Self spins are different than one car accidents. Like if someone spins by themselves, dosent hit anything, or no major damage, then it shouldnt be a caution. However, if someone gets turned, then it should.

Idk im biased on the rule. Id like to see a caution be called when two people wreck. But in karting if you get dumped/spin out then theres no mercy, just keep on trucking. Ive had to do that at Richmond Cup 90 and last night. I dont mind how it is now, but there's always room for improvement

Jake Ace wrote:

yea that's another thing that sucks about it, people can destroy you and you get screwed and they don't even get penalized for causing the wreck

This. A thousand times this. I was destroyed once racing back to the caution, and another time under green. I literally backflipped the 2nd time.