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Here's the inevitable NASCAR changing rules packages for Talladega.

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NASCAR RULE CHANGES FOR TALLADEGA RACE

1. Restrictor plate will increase 1/64 of an inch to 57/64. That's expected to give teams 7-10 more horsepower.

2. Pressure relief valve on the cars' coolilng system will be recalibrated to reduce the pressure by about 8 pounds per square inch. This should reduce amount of time one car can push anohter before the possiblity of overheating engine in the car doing the pushing.

Said Robin Pemberton, NASCAR's VP of competition: "After the last few superspeedway races, we've heard many drivers express their desire to open up the size of the restrictor plate and we thought the time was right to do that. We anticipate these revisons in the rules package for Talladega will help continue to provide competitive and exciting racing for the fans.''

Not sure if I like this or not, I mean the tango has provided a lot of leaders and lead changes, but it could bring back the possibility of the "Big One" again which may or may not be a bad thing.

The reduced Petit Le Mans entry list is out. This is the grid with all the extra cars cut out.

LMP1: 13
#1 Audi Team Joest-Audi R18
#2 Audi Team Joest-Audi R18
#6 Muscle Milk Aston Martin-AMR Lola
#7 Peugeot Sport Total-Peugeot 908
#8 Peugeot Sport Total-Peugeot 908
#10 Team Oreca Matmut-Peugeot 908 Hdi-FAP
#12 Rebellion Racing Lola B10/60 Toyota
#15 Oak Racing-Pescarolo 03 Judd
#16 Dyson Racing-Lola B09/86 Mazda
#20 Oryx Dyson Racing-Lola B09/86 Mazda
#24 Oak Racing-Pescarolo 03 Judd
#007 Aston Martin Racing-AMR Lola
#912 Autocon Racing-Lola B06/10

LMP2: 5

#22 United Autosports-Oak Pescarolo 03 Judd
#26 Signatech-Oreca 03 Nissan
#33 Level 5 Motorsports HPD ARX-01g
#35 Oak Racing-Oak Pescarolo 03 Judd
#055 Level 5 Motorsports-HPD ARX-01g

GT: 19

#3 Corvette Racing Corvette
#4 Corvette Racing Corvette
#17 Team Falken Porsche 997
#40 Robertson Racing Ford GT40
#44 Flying Lizard Porsche 997
#45 Flying Lizard Porsche 997
#48 Paul Miller Racing Porsche 997
#51 AF Corse Racing Ferrari 458
#55 RLR BMW M3 E92
#56 RLR BMW M3 E92
#58 Luxury Racing Ferrari 458
#59 Luxury Racing Ferrari 458
#64 Jetalliance Lotus Evora
#65 Jetalliance Lotus Evora
#98 RSR Jaguar
#99 RSR Jaguar
#01 Extreme Speed Ferrari 458
#02 Extreme Speed Ferrari 458
#962 Risi Competizione Ferrari 458

GTE AM: 6
#50 Larbre Competition Corvette
#57 Krohn Racing Ferrari F430
#60 Gulf AMR Middle East Aston Martin Vantage
#61 AF Corse Ferrari F430
#62 CRS Racing Ferrari F430
#63 Proton Competition Porsche 911 RSR

LMPC: 8
#18 Performance Tech
#36 Genoa Racing
#37 Intersport Racing
#52 PR1 Mathiasen
#89 Intersport
#05 Core Autosport
#06 Core Autosport
#963 Genoa Racing

GTC: 7
#11 JDX Racing
#23 Alex Job Racing
#34 Green Hornet/Black Swan Racing
#54 Black Swan Racing
#66 TRG
#68 TRG
#77 Magnus Racing

GTE Am

bakes991 wrote:

Not sure if I like this or not, I mean the tango has provided a lot of leaders and lead changes, but it could bring back the possibility of the "Big One" again which may or may not be a bad thing.

It will eventually happen with the Tango, it will be interesting to see if it will break up the tangos at all with a couple more HP's, doubt it will though. They just need to stop screwing with the cooling and let'em run too.

Well, I guess the tango is here to stay, but it will probably cause more switching which could end up causing problems lol

bakes991 wrote:

Not sure if I like this or not, I mean the tango has provided a lot of leaders and lead changes, but it could bring back the possibility of the "Big One" again which may or may not be a bad thing.

Just those few changes aren't going to completely bring back pack racing.

If we want pack racing we're going to have to brainwash everyone in the sport. It's like drafting. Once they learned how to do it they fine tuned it and now its a must. Unfortunately the Tango is the next evolution of plate racing, like it or not.

Unless they stuck a 2x4 block off of wood vertically on the front of each car.

Shawn_82 wrote:

If we want pack racing we're going to have to brainwash everyone in the sport. It's like drafting. Once they learned how to do it they fine tuned it and now its a must. Unfortunately the Tango is the next evolution of plate racing, like it or not.

Exactly. I would garauntee that if they did a race with plate cars from 2006, they would go and try it, and it would work. They did it in the ARCA race at Talladega and made it work with the "old car".

Were stuck until Dega and Daytona start aging again. The bumpier it gets the less tangoing we will see.

TheShermanator wrote:

Shawn_82 wrote:

If we want pack racing we're going to have to brainwash everyone in the sport. It's like drafting. Once they learned how to do it they fine tuned it and now its a must. Unfortunately the Tango is the next evolution of plate racing, like it or not.

Exactly. I would garauntee that if they did a race with plate cars from 2006, they would go and try it, and it would work. They did it in the ARCA race at Talladega and made it work with the "old car".

Made it work with the trucks in Daytona too lol

Hell, back in the aerowar days im sure the Chevy and Buicks could of tango'd too lol, hopefully with the new bodies, the bumpers don't line up, but who knows.

Hate the tango. Its so boring! The pack racing was in 1999 and 2000.

yes, the dega april race was the worst race ever. sooooo boring. Not an exciting finish at all

Matt Patterson wrote:

yes, the dega april race was the worst race ever. sooooo boring. Not an exciting finish at all

It will probably be incredible racing from like, the middle of the tri oval on the last lap to checkers and people will talk about how incredibly amazing the race was because of it.

Matt Patterson wrote:

yes, the dega april race was the worst race ever. sooooo boring. Not an exciting finish at all

this is not exciting at all


but in sure people would rather see this

About Talladega. This is from late model driver Brandon Benedele:

Will they allow a car to push another car on the last lap at Talledega? Or, is that illegal like what happened to those running out of gas in Chicago.

That statement is so stupid lol. I swear to god twitter blew up with that quote a few hours after the race.

I think it's well understood that the rule is specifically directed at cars that are not under their own power.

Obviously they aren't Bama fans.

TheShermanator wrote:

Matt Patterson wrote:

yes, the dega april race was the worst race ever. sooooo boring. Not an exciting finish at all

It will probably be incredible racing from like, the middle of the tri oval on the last lap to checkers and people will talk about how incredibly amazing the race was because of it.

*cough87leadchangescough*

Lead changes don't make up for a good race all the time, this type of racing, the product is exciting, but its way to predictable on whos going to win, to me, the excitement factor is the fact they are on the edge of wrecking doing this. I personally would like to seem them fight through the draft, pack racing or not, instead of having to rely on another driver.

NASCARGearHead wrote:

Lead changes don't make up for a good race all the time, this type of racing, the product is exciting, but its way to predictable on whos going to win, to me, the excitement factor is the fact they are on the edge of wrecking doing this. I personally would like to seem them fight through the draft, pack racing or not, instead of having to rely on another driver.

ahem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4amZ9VSA9kY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_5r7GH6dg0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmphcMC-f7I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMK4UtL8XAg

Its way to predictable?? How can Trevor Bayne winning the Daytona 500 be predictable??

I don't mind the tangos but I'd prefer pack racing. But this is what we got now and its going to probably stay this way for years to come. The last 20 laps of a 'tango' style race are as much, if not more intense to me than any type of racing we've seen.