T-Mobile 220 at Bristol

Not sure which track we're running yet.. probably will run SBP07.

Bristol, oh god.

*sniff sniff* whats that i smell, FATALZ i believe

Could someone sub for me? No internet until tomorrow -_-

i think we should run the one with the big ass hill

Even though Caleb isnt here, we are racing tonight, ill be admining. Server's up anyways for early practice and the track is on the FTP Server. SBP_07.

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Just make that a non points race. Was a f*cking joke. Got my race f*cked over by a caution that should never have been there in the first f*cking place.

im gonna start racing these races just for fun and stop acting like its my job lol. had a tough challenge tonight attempting to text and drive

and gw whoever won lol

that just felt so unorganized

What a fucking joke this race was.

Yeah, was an interesting race... Got 3rd, so that wasn't so bad. I was too tight behind people, and I'm too much of a clean racer to just push someone outta the way. Led some laps, was pretty fast a lot of the night, never really fell outside of the top 5... Good night overall

This race was fine up until the end when everyone yelled out caution, so i gave one. Then i thought we could do the GWC thing, but no. Then all of a sudden sherm yells out go when we're all fucking confused. If i never would have thrown the caution i would have gotten bitched at because people were saying C in the chat.

Give up these damn cautions, they arent worth it anymore, if so they just cause confusion.

The race was fine. Quit fucking whining.
We only had problems at the end because Sherm said "Go" about 30 seconds after Adam said "GWC". By the time you had all gone, Jake was already on pit road for the GWC. Its totally unfair to him to do that. Also, at least half the field was listening to Adam and didn't go.

Everyone had a different idea on what to do at the end. If we all would have just listened to the Admin everything would have been fine, though there are no clear rules for him to even follow on that topic.

The results will be taken from lap 124.

Brian 1st
Robson 2nd
Baker 3rd
Sanderline 4th
Me 5th
Sherm 6th
Wetz 7th
Lemonhead 8th
Jake 9th

I was yelling go because I wanted us to go. lol. We don't do GWC in this series and that was our only chance. If we didn't go then, the race was over. That's the problem with these stupid things. You call caution with under 5 to go, at a track as short as Bristol with no clear cut plan on how you are going to restart it, this is the shit that happens. Don't even try to push it on me, I'm not the admin.

Well i cant help it either. When people say c in the caution, i throw it and then made a mistake because i thought we would do the GWC's lol. Where have i been the past few weeks. lol. i would have just gotten bitched out if i didnt throw one, i just know it. Im not in the mood for these cautions anymore they just cause fuss and confusion.

yea, all they've done so far is cause headaches. I'd hate to be an admin for a race for that reason lol

I had a CASCOR Race, so I didn't see what happened, but I don't see what's so bad about the cautions, they provide green flag racing which we really didn't have before, I just think the system needs to be organized more so we have a better understanding WHEN to restart it. It's caused a few headaches, but even still, it's worth it when you can actually go green.

bmxrcodol04 wrote:

This race was fine up until the end when everyone yelled out caution, so i gave one. Then i thought we could do the GWC thing, but no. Then all of a sudden sherm yells out go when we're all fucking confused. If i never would have thrown the caution i would have gotten bitched at because people were saying C in the chat.

Give up these damn cautions, they arent worth it anymore, if so they just cause confusion.

i agree we need to get back to the old way of racing we never complained and had controversey over that. theres just too many variables and judgement calls and tonight was a perfect example of that

and ive noticed that with small feilds the lack of cautions makes the race really boring which causes people to complain about that too nobody is ever going to be happy

If you like racing under caution the old system if for you, IMO at least.

if you saw the race tonight you would know

that just doesnt make sense. i really didnt see any races recently, except for one or two, before we started running the dsr cautions that were wreckfests and running under yellow half the race. we've been racing like that for more than two years and we still had good green flag racing i dont see why all of a sudden we needed to change the system after its been working fine for all this time. it has only caused headaches for the people who admin races. and it gets annoying when were under green and people are spamming C? CAUTION? WRECK? CAN WE HAVE A C FOR THAT???? and we complain when we do throw or dont throw one. with the normal system its a caution if the game thinks there should be. theres no debating or judgement calls on that. thats the way it should be. other people are finally starting to realize this as well. just my opinion on the matter,

Both systems have their pros and cons, right now we are perfecting these style cautions until we know we can make them as good as they are intended to be. The main reason we starting the cautions was to help the race end under green, which ended up with us having a one lap shootout there. It can be argued that we had 2 laps to work with, but it didn't happen.

Right now, we are sticking to this system. Does it have its flaws? Definitely. Are we still trying to tweak everything to get it the best possible? Yes. Bare with it, we are new to this, we aren't throwing cautions if someone spins out and they don't collect anyone. We aren't throwing cautions for drifts like what Jimmie Johnson did Saturday night.

You can complain and everything, but facts are facts and right now we are using these style cautions. This is a live and learn process and this will help us admins come up with a better solution for cautions leaving us with 1-3 laps of green flag racing left. Overtime doesn't seem much of an interest with Caleb, so we are trying other things.

Give it time, let us learn and tweak it. If you keep throwing it under the bus and don't try to give it a chance, then we can't try to make it better.

The reason why we went to the DSR style cautions was because we we're having issues with the old system, and when whoever it was through up the idea of the DSR C's most of us wanted to give it a shot. And we did, and its been mostly trial and error about it. But a big part about it, is the people who are racing, they need to CLEARLY explain what happened in a quick matter of time. And not just say BS stuff, like the darlington thing with Dan. Eitherway I've enjoyed the new system even though I've taken heat for the calls that we're placed. If you don't like GREEN flag racing, well then tough shit. Thats the way most racing series are. But for the most part we have been trying to get things more straight and less confusing like Baker said, but its hard for me to work with the other people who admin when I'm gone, becaquse well, I'm gonna be gone a lot more during the summer because of a job and shit, and I hope it doesn't mess with the league racing too much, but who knows. But thats another topic for another day. But for the moment, we're still tuning the system, but a BIG part of it, is what you guys say, is what most of the cautions are gonna be, because I can't be around the whole track (obviously).

So eitherway I need a lot of help from you guys with it, for it well work smoothly.

Anyways, I have no idea what happened tonight except for what I've seen posted, since I've been at a BBQ restaurant for the past 2 or 3 hours. But what I got from it was that people over reacted to something, like at Darlington and called C's on it, and adam through it and now people are pissed at him. When they shouldn't be IF thats what happened. But its just a surface opinion ATM.

From what I'm hearing from Adam, it would have been a caution under the old system anyways, so I don't understand the complaining lol. As for the Darlington thing, I can also understand why the caution was thrown then too because Dan was in the middle of the the line out of 4, but that's a different story.